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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
恶人自有恶人磨，陀螺不拍夜戏不拍阴天戏违法是吧，库神跟小白脸毫无关系，演得不好别演了
没抱预期，没想到能看进去。剧本老一套，完全由叙述语气撑起的电影。
摄影风格+1，金丝绒色的安静室内，窗外的鹅毛大雪。
结尾收的不错，别的感觉除了演员演技，没什么看点。整体叙事节奏拖沓，人物也没立起来，逻辑上不太能自洽，也是有些遗憾。魔鬼也好人也罢，生活嘛总是人与人之间的互相愚弄，得失如何只有自己清楚了。重要的还是保持初心吧，不然下场也不应该好的。
終仍然走向了無法回頭的道路，裝神弄鬼的最高境界，就是深深相信自己是神能看穿每個人，但是看不穿的是人家早已預謀多時要反咬你一口。片中最好的表演就是凱特女王了，無時無刻散發女王氣場，魯尼第二好，達佛和克莉蒂戲份表演持平。郎普曼就跟別抬頭一樣是湊湊熱鬧，女王應該可以靠別抬頭或是這部角逐女配，至於布萊德利庫柏..正常發揮啦哈
让服化道让演员自行调控
I like how fate has bounded the characters together. The final act is gripping to watch. The shots in the film look beautiful, but Mr. del Toro has failed to impress me with his yet again thinnly written characters.
这个中译名差点让我以为豆瓣没这个片子。黑暗氛围全程压得不错虽然有些部分过于刻意，但后半截叙事感觉过于着急，开始走下坡路的部分未免也太突兀了
画面类型片，美是真心美，主黄蓝对撞的光感一绝（办公室和铁囚笼两处尤其明显 / 通过缩小光圈来切镜的复古手法 / 雪夜里冲撞在漫天鹅毛与钢筋骨架之间的逃命小黑车 / 游乐园相关场景的美术设计是极致梦幻的，远景一拉，lights sprinkled in the wild are already telling the story / delicate lonely strikes of piano key / 比起这乏味的故事，本次的观影同伴以及老板针对他的lash out反倒有意思得多得多呢
太拖沓了，完全没必要拍成两个半小时，看完只让人想看原版
陀螺考慮往丁度發展發展
没看过彩色版，黑白版的观感还可以，很有classic film noir的感觉。剧本写得没48版的好，拖拖拉拉，详略不当，秘笈和塔罗两个元素运用得都一般。最吸引人的还是Stan这个黑色电影中不多见的蛇蝎美男，既是猎手又是猎物，一步步走进自己设的局中去。
新版將原版曖昧又神秘的氣氛一掃而空，開首的序幕就將一切解釋得明白。馬戲團和大都會辯證式設計更突顯Toro 的作者性，對怪物世界的依戀，「怪物」作為對照現實人心，陰翳反照光亮裡頭的黑點，與大城市的浮誇裝潢。47年版在塔羅與連串神秘迷團包圍下，是遮蓋不了男主角的利慾薰心，刻劃在Tyrone Power 臉上盡是向上爬的野心，試問Bradley Cooper美國大男孩臉又怎做到正邪兼備，讓觀眾又投入又生氣？新版增加弒父，不論是親生還是技藝上的父親也好，讓電影淪為廉價佛洛伊德主義，對兩位女主角的描寫，強行拉上不必要的三角戀誤解，也減弱了女主角們的自主性，Toro 內心是能與怪物相伴不加任何道德判斷的人，他可以拍出宅男拯救世界前的掙扎，拍「若你喜歡怪人，其實我很美。」的童話故事，沉淪的事與罪究感、人如何成為怪物，也不是他世界觀所能及。
不太喜欢这个片子，不精彩，一个平平淡淡的翻拍片。
哈哈哈，有趣到谈不上，一直挺替这些人着急的，最后才是老板该有的样子嘛，而阿拉伯人才是一个员工的角度该有的样子啊
看了演职员表才知道是陀螺的作品www大魔王演的真的是好，前半段确实拖的有点长了，但是单就是黑色电影来讲，150分是有的，甚至比《布鲁克林迷案》还要好
陀螺美学集大成，美术设计太强了，故事层面确实可说的不多，中文片名太耽误事儿了，只能说片名也是一种“障眼法”？
已看一半。
痴迷行骗到走火入魔，失了挚爱也枉了余生。前一半是boring freak show，后一半渐入佳境。
越发想看原版 库珀我不想提 他不红是有道理的 你们凯特大魔王那段戏我看了两遍 惊叹于她与黑色电影里蛇蝎美人的完美融合 太迷人热烈了
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