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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
剪辑太好了，印象很深刻。主要人物的塑造也很好，让我觉得他们每个人都有不一样的有趣的地方，太喜欢艾比了，真的很有魅力的人啊。如果要示威游行，还是应该带个头盔，被打脑袋真的很疼诶！
索金的话唠电影，政治倾向鲜明，好莱坞标准产品，因为太标准，所以总是不错看的，剧本，剪辑，群戏，法庭戏都在合格标准以上，当科普也是不错的，政治宣言本身~~~咱啥都不懂，啥都不说。
庭外与庭内，过去与现在，双线交织的叙事，节奏明快，政治主张鲜明，放在当下时局看，颇有几分不言而喻的深意。
并不存在完美的制度，还需要人心和思想来将它维持在一个可持续的状态，而凝结于全体社会中的心性与观念就是传统习俗和价值取向。当然，当一个制度光从逻辑推理上看就存在很多的漏洞，就别指望更高层次的那些了。WYT
"Inside the bar, it's like the '60s never happened. Outside the bar, the '60s were being performed for anyone who looked out of the window."
至少不要人云亦云，不要以为自己的出发点是“无敌”的，是“好”的，就停止思考。
感觉小雀斑随时都会唱起来：red, the blood of angry men🌝🌝
独权真可怕，每个人都在以百万分之一的概率幸运活着。
respect for 69.
小雀斑最后陈述的时候我眼泪一下就流出来了，还是那个Aaron Sorkin,那个心中充满理想主义的艾伦索金。不旺我用The Newsroom做屏保这么多年。比茉莉牌局导演视角更成熟，纯文本的庭审记录为基础，也更能发挥他的优势/世事时代自有评论
7.5分。有Aaron Sorkin做编剧，这片子差不了。但比较让我意外的是原本以为的法庭上的唇枪舌战并没有发生，故事更多表现的是人物的抗争，以及不同思潮之间的对立与融合。 Abbie Hoffman无疑是所有人中最耀眼的，但当年他所希望的革命最终也没入了主流，可能也正因此他只有一个自尽的结局吧。反倒是略为蛇鼠两端的 Tom Hayden最终夺取了权力，这未免有些太讽刺了。
如果你判决所有人的藐视，那只能说明你正在被判决
“93小时，但好像一辈子了。”
极度热血而理想主义，但是最震撼的却也是这理想主义，因为你知道这些都是历史上确确实实发生过的。天下的政权们——过往或今朝——大抵是相似的。
很有意思的群戏，电影背后的故事也很有趣 ，索金和斯皮尔伯格对于现在和60年代的对比确实也挺恰当的。川总对美国的影响居然类似于越战，必须名垂青史了。
美国的强大在于，即使有这么多的不同意见、质疑、批判，国家的某个组织也不会禁止它发出声音，所以，究竟是在单一的声音中看世界更好，还是在扬抑同在的声音中看世界更好？说回电影，导演选择用大量蒙太奇剪辑手法，把一个较为复杂的、多个利益群体、多种诉求的抗议故事，较为简单又诙谐幽默地给观众叙述了出来，演员的表演也可以，其实这种电影，拍出来就4星了。
此片打分颇高，但相信不少人看得一团雾水，因为对此历史事件并不了解，只是觉得明星多，剪接快，口水多。应该说，中间有些对白不错，比较有意思，纪录片的穿插也非常好，有几位的表演也非常精彩，但整体来说，故事背景不算清楚，开头主要人物介绍不够，缺乏与真实人物的对照，事件太多有些混杂不清，看着挺热闹，其实一地鸡毛。
也许是鄙人经历过1980年代末期的各种运动思潮，对于游行抗争有直面的感受。
整体下来还是蛮顺畅的
艾伦索金来做这个项目再合适不过：这是个典型的好莱坞作业，但在猛烈的悲壮情绪势在必行的情况下，他插入刻薄、反讽和喜剧式语言寻求平衡，人物群像在回溯事件的交叉念白中得以塑造，唯一的缺憾是法官作为工具人在可能没有更好的存在方式了
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