The story appears simple on the surface, but is revealed, especially after multiple viewings, as more multi-layered and textured than Cassavetes at his best. Ostensibly it concerns a 14-year old Catholic girl, Wynne (Agutter) growing up in this post-modern wasteland, who develops a crush on her much older adoptive brother (Marshall)- a crush which perversely deepens and grows into infatuation once she starts to believe he is the local sex killer. This is in itself an idea that makes you sit up and jolt, but as the narrative develops, it continues not necessarily along a linear path but in several confusing and fascinating directions: the family's history, (detailed effectively in chilling flashback during an improvised seance) is a chequered one, and has suffered at least one major relocation and upheaval in the last ten years. At the crux, however, it's the depiction of socialal changes that make I Start Counting so fascinating and elevate its language far beyond the confines of the standard horror film. The major subtext- that teenage girls were maturing more quickly than before, and developing full sexual and romantic appetites (even if in thought rather than deed) but were not possessed of enough discretion to make the right choices- was a step forward for a genre in which its young females had previously been portrayed as bimbo victims (Cover Girl Killer and The Night Caller spring to mind), but not one that all viewers would necessarily agree with. But most striking of all, and possibly the most enduring image which the viewer will take away with them, is of the masterful symbolism with which director Greene invests every shot. Every inch of the Kinch family's world- their house, their walls, their TV, Agutters underwear, bedroom furniture and toys, Sutcliffe's clothes, Marshalls van, the local Catholic church, their town centre, their record shop) - is painted a bright, scintillating white- a white which, by inference, is slowly becoming smudged and corrupted with the dirt of the outside world. White also symbolises, of course, purity and innocence (two qualities Catholic schoolgirls are supposed to hold dear), and it is into this world of innocence that the ever-present red bus (a symbol of violation and penetration), conducted by the lecherous yet similarly juvenile Simon Ward, makes regular journeys. The allegory is further expanded in one scene where Agutter believes she sees the Christ figure in church weeping blood: by the time we acknowledge it, its gone, but the seed has already been planted. Rarely in a genre production has the use of colour and background been so important or effective in creating a uniformity of mood. I Start Counting is as near-perfect an end to a decade as one could hope for, and exactly the kind of film people should be making now- which is, of course, exactly why they never will. A genre essential. by D.R.
我说前两个男性视角怎么看得让人焦躁，那不就是两个同事在年终kpi考核述职的时候，拼命粉饰自己，抹黑别人？
罗生门叙事处理的很出彩，把这个有些简单明了的故事拍的很浑厚。服化道各方面极其考究，尤其是光线的运用非常出色，真是不可多得的古装佳作
围观群众并不关心真相
不就是欧美版《罗生门》吗。但是每个人的描述区别不大呀。大量的重复好无聊。
濒死之人，找机构克隆了一个自己，和妻儿继续生活。//科技发达到可以连记忆都复制的地步，依然连肿瘤也没法对付，有点迷惑——不过，转念一想，如今人类已经可以计划去火星了，但也没法彻底搞定COVID-19，也就没那么迷惑了。//在科技日益发展之时，道德，伦理的困境，肯定是越来越需要面对的，毋庸置疑，如果没有道德，伦理羁绊，人类跟其他生物也就没什么区别了。
骑士版罗生门，中世纪版Me too。男人都自大狂妄，一个以为自己是英雄，一个以为自己是情圣。而女性的主视角下的同一个故事却和浮于表面自夸自怜的男性版叙事完全不同，鲜活细腻，有血有肉。强奸戏两个不同版本之间的细微差异堪称惊悚。施暴者眼中的调情式拒绝却是受害者绝望的呼救。老爷子用致敬黑泽明的方式拍了一部毕恭毕正的正剧，却很神奇地用中世纪的故事讲了一个在今天依然重要的议题。这说明有些事情一直在那里本质上并没有改变。比如近一千年前的欧洲女人要指控男人强奸需要以命相搏，而一千年后的今天，世界上的许多地方难道不还是如此么？
黑镜看多了，中后程都在等着出什么大情况。结果没有，一切顺利地结束。故略有怅然。
看得我拳头紧握咬牙切齿眼泪直流 fuck patriarchy fuck god fuck all men🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬Jodie演得太好了
对嘛，科技巨头出品的片子怎么会反高科技呢。
扎扎实实的剧本和摄影，章节层层推进，在最后一刻大爆发，可怕的是施暴者在最后一刻仍没有任何悔意，其实我本以为达蒙会输，那样结局会更加荒诞悲凉，可是在人们簇拥着达蒙向前时，又是另一种说不清感觉的荒诞
复调拍法，对中世纪女性性侵案件的三个视角的呈现，分别是绿帽、施暴者、当事人。和罗生门一样每个人都只能陈述对自己有利的部分忽略掉缺点，而恰恰应该最被重视的女性当事人的证词是最不重要的，女性只是男性的财产而已，千百年来都没变过。
厉害的是人物视角变化后的一些细节，就连强奸戏，男性视角相比女性都会简化或者说“美化”很多。只有女性视角才表现出眼泪鼻涕，歇斯底里。一度想给五星，后半小时还是有点过于白给了，把现代女权觉醒的意识套到那个时代。
当过多的冗余镜头对叙事造成了累赘，
这是个不让爱人知道自己不久于人世而使用克隆人去陪伴她的深情故事。关于克隆人总逃不开伦理问题，连主角自己开始也难以接受另一个自己来替代自己，奈何情深“一定不能让她知道这个事”和透过克隆人眼镜传输看到爱人的影像，真是憋死人的节奏。
朱迪·科默、马特·达蒙、亚当·德赖弗众星贡献了一场精彩的中世纪的丑闻大戏！雷老爷子果然从不失手，最后半小时两个男人为了所谓荣誉与正义的丑陋对决将整部电影推向戏剧高潮，也是本片第一主人公marguerite命运的高潮，不过结尾将死之时的亚当说出的那句疑似忏悔的话确实让人意味深长，不知道是否有意为之。但很显然，没有人是胜利者
千年世界轮回，究竟几何变化。
我想再次重逢，那是一首生命挽歌
喜欢里面有一句台词：微笑和好话比威胁好用多了，哪怕你不是真心的
当背景声音放完了，全程和B聊天。不过关键情节是看到了
当过多的冗余镜头对叙事造成了累赘，
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