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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
朝鲜时代的《海岸村恰恰恰》。扣一星是因为我更喜欢彩色电影。
看罢感慨良多。“帝国最优秀的人才却与鱼虾相伴”。想起韩昌黎的诗：“嗟哉吾党二三子，安得至老不更归。”《兹山鱼谱》用汉语写成，去年点校了一部分，国内还没出过。
国家的民主现代性进程这样一个宏大的主题，落到具体的细微个体身上来展开，非常具有感染力
丁若铨在黑山岛上著《兹山鱼谱》，真有点像鲁迅先生临摹碑帖，都是在不适合自己的社会环境下做些看似无意义的事情，实在是对现状的不满。
东亚古装剧的天花板，看到几句诗句和劝导都觉得莫名感动，思想的力量是多么重要，有的人去政局里搅弄风云，有的人则退于江湖仰望星空，任何时代都有理想主义，我们不一定都要主动去让时代碾碎。薛景求就不说了，卞约汉的表演真是令人叹服。
柳承龙的大胡子造型就是我心目中苏东坡的样子，同样都是被流放的大儒，中国怎么就拍不出来这样的电影呢？
真是四海无闲田呀！
这哪是什么儒学电影，精神内核还是在批判“封建社会”。史实的丁若铨我不了解，片中的丁若铨明显被编导安排成“被压抑的现代性”的化身（连地球仪都出现了），加上弟子出仕后情节太过刻意，感觉用力过猛。
如果这个故事是真的，那么朝鲜的丁若铨就是比中国的睁眼看世界第一人还要超前数十年。想不到那个时代的朝鲜小小的渔村竟有这样一个包容济世的伟人，想不到韩国人的电影这么有国学韵味与哲理。
流放生活这么惬意的吗？不过看他们作的五绝七绝怎么那么想笑呢，打油诗的感觉了
和儒家治国、耶稣基督都没太大关系，不如说是用历史掌故包裹的知识分子困境，在“贱民去势”的情节中达到符号表达的高潮，以坚守书写至死作结，同时用人本、自然等等现代观念撑起价值观表达。看起来多少有些刻意，或许是不够精致。最让我触动的一幕是昌大看着滚动的星空，“脚踏实地，仰望星空”的康德箴言一秒具象，那是启蒙之时最初的感动。
“不再想去研究复杂善变的人类，要转去研究通透明净的事物，用（新鲜实在的）事物来忘记（那个曾被过份放大的小）我。”是自低贱近鱼虾腥气，还是入浊世恶臭两班，师徒互为观照的入世出世。纯黑白风景舒服极了，126分钟浑然不觉负累，近期最佳韩影（看见有人说如果有这样一部苏东坡就好了，哭了😭）。演的最好是胖婶，记住了这位黄金女配。4.5
一个简单的故事，两个被“流放”的另类，在没有希望的世界里找到活下去的希望
前有《思悼》，后有《兹山鱼谱》，在对国家过往儒家文化的深刻反思这一方面，韩国竟然又一次走在了中华文化圈的前列
兹山的亚里士多德。李濬益另一部充满诗情的《东柱》也是非常好。
有儒学的入世之深，老庄的旷远幽长，更有民间的生命力，也打开了一种历史题材的新思路，太喜欢了，后悔现在才看。
每当看到一部好电影都会让我更加痛恨光腚总局
①百姓们把土地当做农田，官吏们把百姓当做农田。②朱子的力量，真是强大啊。
可能是四星半，但的确是近几年难得觉得又美又在表达宏大社会历史背景下的价值观冲突上不显得过于刻意的。十九世纪初朝鲜王朝的思潮/朝代更替政治之争，东西学之分初见端倪，精英/庶民不同和贪腐/苛税这些亘古不变的话题被化在了丁若铨和张昌大如何“过好这一生”的个体生活选择里。读书为何，生活何为，如何让众人过上更平等又有尊严地生活呢？大概也是导演的问题吧。
这么好的故事可惜被韩国先拍了出来，真是一种无奈的遗憾
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